Duane Report This Comment Date: March 05, 2006 03:44PM
I found this link on google,click on the link on the page it takes you to.Post
arguements for or against his seminar.Some very logical arguements brought up by
a former science teacher.[
video.google.com]
I_fucked_beasts__ASS Report This Comment Date: March 05, 2006 03:45PM
Just really want to hear both sides.
shaDEz Report This Comment Date: March 05, 2006 04:05PM
in one word: evolution
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: March 05, 2006 08:50PM
Evolution is the 'How' ... the 'Why' is up for interpretation.
I_fucked_beasts__ASS Report This Comment Date: March 05, 2006 09:09PM
Did anyone actually check out what this guy said and the scientific arguments
he put forth?There are some pretty tough questions for evolution to actually be
true.
Duane Report This Comment Date: March 05, 2006 09:13PM
If you love science then check out the questions he asks.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: March 05, 2006 10:39PM
Of course evolution exists because the average height of every generation gets
taller, that’s evolution. What the evolution people can’t tell you is why
it all happened. How did we come to exist? Why did the big bang occur? Life on
this earth makes no sense without a belief in God. Without God when we die
it’s over - no heaven, no hell, no reward, no punishment - it’s over. If
that’s the case why should anyone of us take one second out of our lives to be
nice to our own children or anyone else for that matter? We do it because even
the people who say they don’t believe in God hope there is an after life.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: March 05, 2006 10:52PM
Liberals amaze me. Not all liberals are atheists but most atheists are liberal
and they want to take from the rich to give to the poor. Why should we do such
a thing if there is no God? What’s the fucking point of giving a damn about
anybody if there is no God?
Duane Report This Comment Date: March 05, 2006 11:13PM
So I see I must have asked the wrong question because nobody is checking the
link.I agree with some of you but check out the arguments on the link damnit.
shaDEz Report This Comment Date: March 05, 2006 11:49PM
i'll get to it prob tommorow night
rogue_1 Report This Comment Date: March 06, 2006 12:53AM
G A I A
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: March 06, 2006 11:40PM
Yes, I went to the link and found it very interesting. I think the only proof
that one life form turns into another is the process of birth. At one point, we
are a microscopic organism, so small in fact, that you can not see it unless you
have a microscope. As the form grows, or evolves, it looks like a frog or
tadpole with an actual tail. Another stage, there are gill slits, and we have to
keep in mind, we do do breath actual air, but rather rely on a "life
line" so to speak. I am not sure about a big bang theory, but I can not
rule out intelligent design. The Bible is sort of a history book, that has been
translated over and over again, with some things either being left out, or
altered to adjust the meaning entirely to meet their needs. In most churchs,
just as an example, the book of Timothy preaches on a womans appearance in
church. Do we live by what he says, or do we sort of adjust, just to keep the
church funds rolling in. They say you can judge a tree by its fruit, then can we
explain why so many preachers lead us astray? Where I live, a minister has been
put in jail for gambling away thousands and thousands of the churchs offerings.
How did this go undetected? Is this part of the great plan? I guess if there is
a God, he knows just how screwed up society is, and as far as violence and sex,
well, that goes on in the bible also, and at that time it was percentage wise,
the same per population. If you get a chance, I believe it is a great link to
debate.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: March 07, 2006 12:54AM
I have some of the same reservations about organized religion.I dont believe in
throwing money at churches and I would have to trust them and thier causes.You
know I think to many times people try to define what it is to believe in God but
I think he will let you know as time goes on.I dont even rule out that some
other religions may send people to heaven also.Good people are good people I
dont think he cares what dogma they follow within reason.I think sometimes
organized religion is the worst thing for religion.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: March 07, 2006 12:39PM
Evolution.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: March 07, 2006 12:43PM
In fact, we are still evolving. If you are taller than your parents, you are
consistent with a trend
that has been documented over the past 200 years. People are getting taller and
maturing earlier. American pioneer clothing is smaller in relation to sizes we
wear today. Their beds and other furniture also reflect a shorter stature. Over
a half century, two inches in height was gained for the average five-year-old
and four inches for 11-year-olds. In addition, the age of puberty has declined
three to four years since the turn of the century. This accelerated maturation
rate has been occurring world-wide.
That is evolution in action.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: March 07, 2006 02:38PM
Evolution, is to change from one thing to another. Not height, that is in the
gene pool. Did we come from a monkey? No. Why? Monkeys are still monkeys, their
offspring are monkeys. Let me use one example of breeding one animal to another.
A donkey is a donkey and will always be a donkey. A horse, is a horse, and will
always be a horse. Breed the two together. What do you get? A mule. What happens
when you try to breed a horse to a mule? Goodluck. Because you cannot do it. The
mule is always a female, always sterile. Therefore, a mule is as far as it goes
and cannot reproduce. Adaptation vs evolution would be a better guess. Creatures
adapt to their surrounding environments. Is there a God? I would like to believe
that there is. Can we prove it? Can we prove the wind exists? Yes we can, by
seeing the destruction a Tornado causes. But, can we actually see it? No. So, do
you have to see God to believe. I think the answer is obvious. I think that like
Gods word, man would adapt to it also, slowly, but surely, moving away from it
entirely. If God is God, why on earth would he want to reside with a bunch of
idiots like us? Why would he tell us not to kill, yet he can? If God can do
anything, which the Bible says, Can he make a rock so large and heavy, that even
he cannot pick up? There are alot of questions, and we may never know all the
anwers. So what do we do? Debate, debate,debate....................
Maximus_Erectus Report This Comment Date: March 07, 2006 08:11PM
god is nothing more than a tool, used by the church to keep mankind in check,
the roman catholic church used gods name for power and wealth in the preceeding
centuries to keep control of the political and banking worlds, it may have
started out as a faith based religion, but it soon became nothing more than a
power play to keep the lesser informed patrons of the church inline, and to keep
money flowing to the rich and powerfull, the churches made law, and to keep that
power, they kept vital secrets from the public which would have helped the human
race evolve at a rapid pace, keeping this information to themselves ensured the
church a stronghold on the government and people it protected for a long time to
come, to this day, i believe that thier is information that the church has kept
hidden from the peoples in order to maintain some sorrt of powerplay in the
world today, god dosent live in heaven, he never existed, he lives in your
heart, and as long as you can believe in an afterlife, then your days here on
earth can be as fulfilling as any to come in this so called afterlife, piss on
the church, what exactly have they ever done for you/me lately?do we really need
them? i think not.and we damn sure dont need fanaticle assclowns like billy
graham. but thats just my opinion, i could be wrong.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: March 08, 2006 03:47PM
Creation and the bible should have been thrown in the trash when people figured
out that the Earth isn't the center of the universe, the Earth isn't only 5,000
years old. The Christian religion is gonna go the same way as Zeus, and Ra, and
all the other gods we now consider myths. If you want to think about creation,
try this...who created god? When you figure out it was man, you have reached
enlightenment. Evolution.
Duane Report This Comment Date: March 08, 2006 09:13PM
My life is nothing,nothing I do matters,I can rape, pillage,murder,and violate
anyone because there is no one to answer to.Carpe Diem rules the day.No
morals,no rules,no hope!Seems like the people who believe this are enlightened.I
just dont agree but thats just my opinion.You know what they say about
opinions,they are like assholes everybody has one.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: March 09, 2006 07:27AM
i like 229248's comment. I believe both evolution and creation are matters of
faith. We cannot know whether either one is true. When you trace them both back
it becomes a simple question of which faith do you subscribe to.
Evolution - how did the matter for the big bang come about out of nothing?
Creation - how did god come about out of nothing?
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: September 04, 2006 05:01PM
Just curious, are any of the debaters even checking out the link to debate his
argument?
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: November 18, 2008 07:01PM
good thread and good link
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 18/11/2008 07:12PM by fossil_digger.
