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Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: April 14, 2006 03:20PM

lol
rogues3 Report This Comment
Date: April 14, 2006 04:05PM

what about East Germans
90130_ Report This Comment
Date: April 14, 2006 04:23PM

They can stay the hell out, too.
madmexrva Report This Comment
Date: April 14, 2006 04:39PM

yup your countrys fuked and its the mexicans fault. TV plays it and you repeat it .Good Job
Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: April 14, 2006 07:57PM

madmexrva= asshole
Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: April 14, 2006 08:26PM

Why don't you open your eyes. Reality tv has blended in to the american media. Way to go, short attention span, couch potato motherfuckers.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: April 14, 2006 09:25PM

Short attention span ? Hardly, a life lived with the situation worsening before my eyes doesn't qualify as a short attention span.

Just more limp wristed jabs by the limp wristed people too blind to see or understand the ramifications of the issue at hand.

The old saying still applies : If you're not part of the solution, you're just another part of the problem.

Hey madmex, here's one for you : Are YOU a citizen here? Do you even live here ?
John_Stone Report This Comment
Date: April 14, 2006 09:27PM

Everyone knows that walls work. Numerous historical examples show how effective they are.
The Great Wall of China, the Berlin Wall, the Israeli Wall, Hadrian's Wall, and more.

Also effective are "homelands", "reservations", "bantustans", and "concentration camps". "Refugee encampments" and "No-fly zones" have additionally been proven quite successful.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: April 14, 2006 09:39PM

John, we've tried more border agents, that didn work, we tried monitoring stations and that didn work, so what would your recommendation be ?

If you have no realistic idea for a solution, then why attempt to muddy the issue with more meaningless drivel ?

Once more I'll ask you: Do you live here? Is this problem any part of your personal experience?
madmexrva Report This Comment
Date: April 14, 2006 10:37PM

YA.born and raised my dad ia naturalized mexican and my mom is a native american with the the pima indians of arizona. i own a bussiness in Virginia and have no illigals working for me. I pay taxes and my family never had to use welfare.
Building walls puts you behind one as well, walls don't work.America is a latin word and America is the greatest country in the world because we dont build walls like most communist countrys.
Mexicans and indians are native to this land and the white man and niggers came here on boats.Yet you don't see me cryin about it.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: April 15, 2006 02:41PM

I appreciate your family history and contributions to the way of life here that serves to continue the long held traditions of naturalization and citizenship here in the US madmex, and assure you I hold no issue with that.

The issue I have is with the unbridled illegal border crossings into my own home state that has led to a serious drain over the years on our states economy and social resources.

Many illegals work for cash, then send a large part of their earnings back to Mexico which indeed has an economic impact to the economy.

They also use the free county/state run medical facilities when needed at no cost to them, something even I as a born citizen can't do.

Though most of them are very hard workers and have a great work ethic which I greatly respect them for, many also seem to have an inordinate penchant for alcohol which tends to land then in troble with the law and clog up our judicial system here.

The problem of illegal immigrants is multifaceted and complex to say the least. The axe I have to grind is simply that they are enjoying the opportunities here without contributing to the society financially which places another unfair burden upon the taxpayers.

Just as a point of fact madmex, the various native Indian tribes here are the only true natives of this land. The Mexicans you mentioned came as a byproduct of the Spanish and typically Indian pairings, making the Mexicans just another sort of "blended" immigrants themselves.

Texas asked for independence from Mexico and when that was denied, declared independence and won it with a pretty bloody war with Mexico over it, eventually even marching troops into Mexico to end it once and for all.

Out of complete curiosity madmex, do you know where the term "gringo" came from ? It's an interesting story, and seemingly as lost to most who use it as is the fact that Africans themselves were the ones who sold their own opposing tribes into slavery back in the 1800s is to most blacks today.

One last query. Though I'd hate to see us have to errect a wall stretching all along our southern or northern borders, what alternative suggestion could you make that would better suit the problem of unbridled illegal immigration we have now?
It's easy to make complaints, but more difficult to offer viable solutions ;>winking
smiley
John_Stone Report This Comment
Date: April 15, 2006 04:28PM

I don't think a 17 foot wall is enough. I think we should build a 25 foot wall, with machine-gun towers, razor-wire, and landmines.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: April 15, 2006 05:32PM

Great John, why not pack up a bunch of YOUR countrymen and get over here and get started on it right away :>winking
smiley
Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: April 15, 2006 05:55PM

Walls are for idiots because thats all who will get stopped by it. The well to do can afford to fly over your biggest wall and the smart could tunnel away(see Vietnam).I am in the thick of it all, and allot of company desire to hire them.You cannot get a white guy in souther CA to work for $12.00 an hour for at least 50hrs a week.Americans are the most unreliable workforce around .They call in sick alot and will be late or work output will fall when harrased. I Know i called in sick periodically and it wasn't tru. To a Mexican if he works those hrs and more =more money.Companys NEED TO QUIT HIRING THEM. Corparations work on the bottom line dollar and that will never change. When they pour concrete it needs to be cured all night some times for days,white guys will scream about there rights and its against the law,but a mexican will say will iget paid and i can sleep for a few hrs here and there just for the next few days untill the concrete goal is met.Comon Sense, were is it ask.? Here in Virginia the work force for drywall layers is almost exclusivle mexican.They can put a hotel of drywall up in a week were as local teamsters and unions will do it in 6 months at quadruple the price.If it was your bussiness would you do it?
I Would like to build a wall around john stone ,25ft high . Enforcment of Border security is the answer and they are seriosly outnumbered. But not only are mexican getting smuggled in but most of our drugs (weed,coke) get smuggled inhere across those same borders, and if you had too much enforcment that might not make delivery here were the afluent and wealthy paid for it.Some people have accused or CIA of being in charge of this. I lived ther and for my own safety i will not comment on that part any more.But it has brought up the tru question,Why arent our borders secure?
Most mexicans want to go home but if has wire and guns the dont dare approach it once here for work.\
In mexico a loaf of Bread i$7000.00 dollars a loaf and milk is over $10,000dollars(dollar =Peso)What would you do to feed your sister or kids or parents.Mexico is Exactley the way U.S wants it. poor and underdeveloped for a cheap source of labor.
madmex Report This Comment
Date: April 15, 2006 05:56PM

i typed that
John_Stone Report This Comment
Date: April 15, 2006 06:53PM

Capital / Money is as fluid as you please... the ultra-rich can shift their money here and there, as they please. Passing few border restrictions, investing, de-investing in entire countries, and national currencies ...

Yet those of us who have to actually work for a living are increasingly pushed around, blocked in here and there by walls, appearing on "no-fly" lists, paying hundreds of dollars for the =opportunity= to apply for a Visa, detained, deported. Etc.

The USA is a very rich nation, and it got that way via taking others' resources on the cheap. For example American corp. Bechtel =purchased= the Bolivian water systems.. and proceeded to raise price of water between 30-50%.

So where's the love, USA? Share the wealth you selfish pricks!

John_Stone Report This Comment
Date: April 17, 2006 08:57PM

Dr. Ernesto Galarza, who interviewed this worker, is a quiet, scholarly man, and a long-time observer of migrant America. He found Mexican workers in California in some strange camps: a storage shed, a chick hatchery, a small building with boarded-up windows, a dairy barn, a stable, tents in various stages of wear and tear, abandoned WWII barracks, and tumble-down Quonset huts.

Migrant workers are often housed with livestock [ =Avian/animal flu watchers take note= -ed.] A Mexican worker in California described his camp this way:

"We are installed in a barn which was used for the cows when we moved in. You have to slide the big door and go in and out same as the cows. The cracks between the wall planks are about eight or ten centimeters wide. This makes very good ventilation for the cattle but it allows the wind to pass over our bunks at night ... It is strong and fresh cow smell. It is necessary to use much Flit and the smell of this chemical also affronts us."
Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: April 19, 2006 11:11AM

Try showing up in any other country on the planet, illiterate and penniless, and announcing: "I've seen pictures of your country and it looks great. I think I'd like to live here! Oh, and by the way, would you mind changing all your government and business phone messages, street signs and ballots into my native language? Thanks!"